“When you don’t have size you make up for it with speed and he didn’t have the best speed, either. He came along at a Cats sometimes I talk to myself then we both laugh and laugh shirt when there were still good heavyweights. I don’t think he gets the credit for what he should have gotten for fighting the guys like, even though Marciano was fighting (Ezzard) Charles when Charles was a little past his prime he was still a good tough fighter. I look at Archie Moore, when he knocked out Archie, I think Archie came back and went on another winning streak and really he had never even lost the light heavyweight title. I think he was the epitome of what we call just an “overachiever”.